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Sunday, July 14, 2013

Game Over

At McCarran awaiting the noon flight back to WDC.  A great trip was capped by a great night playing poker with fellow blogger grrouchie, whose blog (Confessions of a Local Fish) is linked on the blog roll to the right.  While a thorough trip report will be forthcoming over the next several days,  I wanted some comments on one hand that took place last night:

Villain is a local.  According to grrouchie, he is a pit boss.  Mid-50's.  Loud.  Sat down and asked the dealer for a copy of the rules (e.g., flush beats a straight... Trips beats two pair...).  My impression - gentleman likes to gamble. Villain straddles $5 from the button.  One caller and the action gets to me.  I look down at KT spades and raise to $17.  Villain calls.

Flop is 4 7 9.  I bet $20.  Villain calls.

Turn is a red K.  I bet $32.  Villain again quickly calls.

River blanks.  I bet $40.  Villain tanks and raises to $140.

To steal a phrase from Poker Meister - what what you do?

-ppp

8 comments:

  1. I KNOW I KNOW!!

    Also, saw the pick of your 750 stack on FB and thought "really wish I didn't have to leave"

    Glad everything worked out well. In the long run Bally's turned out to be a great suggestion for both of us despite us stumbling out of the gate.

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  2. With about 325 in the pot, asking me to call 100 to win 425 is oKK.

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  3. $226 in the pot and you're debating calling $100 more... it's hard to determine because you don't describe the draws / texture of the board. Assuming it's a rainbow board, villain is on a wide range, clearly, based on his "gambly" tendencies. I'm going to try to put him on a range, but I'm not really sure how to fit it for this guy:
    56, 68, 9x (including K9), 44, 77, 99. AK, KQ, KJ are likely folding to the flop bet, though AK may not. Does he 3bet?

    A raise on the river is fairly unique to non-nut / non-strong hands. Is this a guy who is capable of bluff raising the river?

    Ultimately, I think your hand is fairly hidden, hitting it on the turn, but you've 3barrelled and he is not only not going away but he's raising on the river. I have to presume his raise is much more value-oriented than bluff-oriented, so I'm leaning towards folding.

    It should be noted that I'm hating folding. If I fold, he has 56, if I call he shows me K9.

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    1. First off, I think I lay down too easily in these situations as a general matter.

      On this hand, given his button straddle and flat call of my preflop raise, and my general impression of him as a gambler, I really felt like he was floating me the entire ride. By the river, it was possible he (a) defended his straddle and had flopped a random two pair (7 9; 4 9), or (b) was bluffing. It was impossible (for me at least) to put him on any kind of range (based on all the factors above). I tanked a bit, but in the end, resisted my usual tendency to fold. I thought based on this particular villain, the beads around his neck . . . asking for a copy of the rules of the game . . . the 5 dollar straddle . . . and is line in general, that a bluff was too big a part of his range in this spot to ignore. Plus the fact that it was "only" $100 more.

      I called. He mucked.

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    2. 226 or 326 in the pot Poker Meister?

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    3. Sorry - you're correct; $326.
      1 (SB) + 2 (BB) + 5 (straddle) + 5 (limper) + 17 (raise) + 12 (straddle call) = 42
      20 (bet) + 20 (call) = 40
      32 (bet) + 32 (call) = 64
      40 (bet) + 140 (raise) = 180 (I missed the $100 on top - duh!)
      42 + 40 + 64 + 180 = $326

      $100 to win $326 makes the call a bit more palatable; less than 30% of the time you need to be right to make this a profitable call. Still not loving the call but this definitely pushes the scale in favor of calling.

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  4. The key to me is the quick call on the turn. He had to know the K was probably a good card for you but he made the call anyway. If he is sitting on a made set or even 2 pair, I gotta think he reraises you because so many people will insta shove TPTK in that situartion. Instead he doesn't tank, he makes a quick call. That to me says drawing hand. When the river missed he took a shot to steal the pot. I would hope to call that one based on his quick call on the turn. Nicely played sir.

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    1. Yeah, his line sort of didn't make too much sense to me. I sort of agree with you - if he had a strong hand, I sort of would have expected the check raise before the river.

      Good luck in Vegas this week!

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