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Monday, August 11, 2014

What's the Move

Micro-stakes game on Seals (.05/10).  6-ring.   Max buy-in is 10.  P3 is sitting on 13.50.  Villain has 9.5.  Villain min-raises pre-flop to .2 and PPP calls with 88.  Heads up to the flop:


7(d) 8 (d) 9 (c). 


[Pot: .35]




Villain checks.  P3 bets .23.  Villain raises to .68.  Hero re-raises to 2.1.  Villain raises to 4.2.  Action is on Pete.


What's the move?

15 comments:

  1. CALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! duh. BCUZwhat beats u now and what would he/she raise with preflop.99/J10/56???????????? OR does the person have like KINGS/ACES.i CALL if flopped a str8.u got outs

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  2. Fold. Villain probably has KK and is about to spike a K on the turn.

    Actually, I'd play it out, call and let him bet himself into misery if he doesn't catch the flush or catch his set.

    His postflop play tells me he's likely to have a higher pair or suited connector type hand. I doubt he has 10 J but that is a possibility, especially if it is suited in diamonds. He did raise preflop, which really makes me think he's got a pocket pair or high suited cards on a flush draw/overcard draw. A cold four bet bluff even on that flop, at this limit, is pretty unlikely. A four bet with AA to try to get you off of a flush draw or straight draw would make more sense.

    You are ahead of a lot of hands players will make this move with 77, AA, KK, QQ, possibly JJ and 1010 as well as quite a few suited hole cards. You are behind 99, 10J, and 56. He would probably push harder if he wanted you out right now. He thinks his hand is good at this point, or will be good in 2 cards.

    You still have outs at this point if I'm wrong and he has 10 J diamonds. If he has 99 you are all but screwed.

    It will be interesting to see how other's would play this.

    I wouldn't be able to find the fold button in this situation. If a 3rd diamond falls on the turn and Villain goes all in, I likely fold unless it's the 9 of diamonds.

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  3. what he said. glad to c the METS didn't fuck me over on espn streak 4 the cash. almost in the 9th thou. p.s. looks like Robin Williams is dead.R.I.P. NANU NANU

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  4. I'd rather get it in on the flop and see what happens, than have a 4th straight card or 3rd diamond come and have to make the tough decision with only 1 card left. If we're behind anything but 99 we've got a lot of outs. Hope it worked out!

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  5. You're never that far behind by getting in here if indeed you are behind at all. Get it in on the flop where you have the greatest equity.

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  6. I'm okay with getting it all in here, but I also don't mind just calling the .68, evaluating the turn, and playing accordingly either. I'm betting you're going to see either two suited broadway cards in diamonds or J-10 from the villain. People love that hand...J-10. A poker buddy of mine always says, "If an opponent is betting into you on a board where J-10 is the nuts, then they have J-10." And I'll be damned if he isn't right most of the time.

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    1. J 10 does seem to be a popular hand. It's high enough to do some damage if it hits, and low enough that it will get below a lot of people's broadway hands.

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  7. Thanks, all.

    I jammed, he snapped and flipped JT (well played, JT!).

    I was mainly curious to see whether there was a justification to just call in that spot? My thoughts were this - I'm not folding, and, if he's on the draw, why just call and give him a chance to draw out? Is there an argument that, assuming my set is ahead, we actually don't want to push his draw out in this spot?

    Plus, lets assume I call, and a 6/T or diamond falls on the river. He leads out. Now what do I do? The pot's bloated, and now, haven't I opened myself up to villain representing a made draw (as opposed to actually having hit the draw? So, how do I lay down my hand on the turn if a scare card hits? I'm not sure I'd trust me read enough one way or the other. Hence, I jammed he flop.

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  8. Also, does the analysis change if, for instance, this is a $1/2 game. Let's assume the preflop min-raise is to $7 or so (no one is raising to $4 in a live game). I call, and bet, say, $12 on the flop. His equivalent raise would be to $30. My raise would be $90 . . . his final action would be to $180. A call seems even worse in this spot. I'm assuming jamming makes sense (and is the right move against everything but 99).

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  9. This hand just made me curious because is not often I've seen that type of action on a flop . . .

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  10. I guess at only 100 or so big blinds deep the right move is going ahead and getting it all in on the flop like you did. If I were 200 or 300 big blinds deep against an opponent who had me covered I probably proceed with a little more caution.

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  11. so what was the turn and river??????????????????? since u said he had J10 .I ASSUME U DIDTN FILL UP???

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    1. Only with rage, sir . . . only with rage. That's like .00023 of a bitcoin I may never see again!

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    2. hopefully u weren't drink a GLASS bottle of miller lite. can u get 86'd out of yr own house??????????

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  12. miley cyrus???WTF. i thought. u were all about the lindsay lohan,counselor.

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