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Wednesday, August 13, 2014

What's the Story?

This is another tale of on-line micro stakes.  Once again, it's the .05/.10 game.  I'm sitting on a full 10, having yet to play a hand.  Villain's stack is 14, having just won when he three-bet shoved KQ off  for 9 after a .40 raise by a guy holding AK.  The original raiser called the shove, and 5th street gave villain the straight.  Well played, sir.  

So, here goes our hand:

I limp from the blind with T8 off.   We go three to the flop of 628 rainbow.  I bet .23, and after a fold, villain calls.  Turn is 2.  I check just for pot control, and villain bets .10.  Um.  OK.  I think about raising, but, again, want to keep the pot small in this spot, and just call.   River is a 5.  I check, hoping to get villain to fire/semi bluff  worse hand.  He shoves for 12 or so.  Um.  Really?  

Now, you tell me how Villain's story makes any sense whatsoever.  It begs the larger question whether you can even try to piece together an opponent's play at these levels.  

Now, I can fold here quit easily and simply move on to the next hand.  Indeed, under normal circumstances, top pair, shit kicker is an easy fold when playing for your stack.  But, this dude just shoved KQ off pre flop the last hand.  He could literally be shoving ANYTHING in this spot.   He could have complete junk and just be buying this pot, figuring based on my check call of .10 on the turn and my river check that there is no way I'm ever calling for my stack.  Or, he could have the nuts and be making it look like he's buying it to get me to call with a weak hand which I'd likely fold to a true value bet.

So, after thinking about it, I decide the dude's line makes no f*cken sense, and call with my pair of 8's. He turns over 62 for the boat.   And I feel, in the descriptive words of Tony Bigcharles, like a total donkey.  Was my opponent just some kid with no idea what he's doing? Or was his line the product of his poker genius?

Perhaps the moral of micro-stakes poker is this:  quit trying to think.  Play your made hands and strong draws.  Value bet.  Never bluff.  And, if in question, just fold . . .  But, if on-line micros is meant to be a learning experience, this sort of defeats the purpose.  Maybe it's not suppose to have a purpose . . . other than providing some cheap entertainment now and again.


ETA:  The variance on Seals is absurd.  As you may recall, when I first joined, I could not win a hand.  Ever.  Then I was able to quadruple the account over the next month or so.  I couldn't lose.  Now, I've lost 1/3 of the account over the past two weeks.  And most of it is on sick, sick beats.  I mean, I just can't win.  Over the past 30 minutes:


(1)  my QQ got rivered to an 8-high straight.  Kid open-raised to .27, I 3-bet to .85 and he calls.  Flop is 6 8 3.  I bet 3/4 pot and he calls.  Turn is an K.  I bet 3/4 pot, kid calls.  River is a 4.  I bet, he re-raises me all in.  I call.  Kid has 5 7.  Ugh.


I reload, and 5 minutes later . . .


(2)  Same kid raises .27.  I flat with AK diamonds.  Flop comes out 3(d) K(h) 7(d).  Kid checks, and I bet 2/3 pot.  He calls.  Turn is a 4(d).  Nice.  I bet about 2/3.  Kid calls.  River is 4(c).  kid checks, I bet, he raises me all in.  I call.  Kid tables 34.


 And that has been the past two weeks on Seals . . . over and over.



14 comments:

  1. it's not suppose to have a purpose . . . other than providing some cheap entertainment now and again.

    I play cheap MTTs online. I try to win money, of course, but is it really about the money? I think not. Still, I try to make the best decisions I can.

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    1. I guess I sometimes feel like playing these limits just leads to bad habits and reinforces bad poker. It seems hard to really even just play "level 2 poker" because you see people doing the craziest things . . . over and over.

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  2. I've seen play like this quite a few times playing lower stakes than this on Carbon. I have called a few people that do this often thinking it may be a bluff. They had big hands each time.

    I'm not sure of their success rate of calls to folds, but they would only need 1 call out of 20 to take a 10.00 stack, where as a little over pot size bet of .50 would need to be called 20 times out of 20 to get that 10.00. There's always a possibility that the only way somebody would call is if they held the nuts and they would lose 10.00 a shot.

    I think they do it at the lower stakes because it will work less and less as the stakes get higher. The money matters more.

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    1. Yeah, I've seen it before too. I've never tried to work the math out, so maybe it is a profitable strategy. It's similar to the guys who shove 100 BB's preflop into a 3-5x opening raise. It would seem like, if you have AA, you are losing value over the long run. And, if you are shoving hands like 99 - TT because you are afraid of seeing a flop with them, again, you are generally going to only get called by better hands.

      Over all, these micro stakes are fairly easy to make money at if you just lock it down and play ABC poker and fold those "difficult spots" and just wait for better opportunities to get your money in. But, that just doesn't feel like poker. . . .

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  3. Hard translating play at that level to play where a little more money might be on the line.

    I think things are different with micro cash games as opposed to micro tournaments. If I lose a buck or two with a dumb play in cash, so what? I rebuy or move on. However, with a tournament, I don't want to be out of it, and would likely play better overall. At least that is the way I would see it.

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    1. Yeah; agreed. And if I wasn't playing with bitcoin on Seals, and had the ability to reload my account easily if I went bust, I'd definitely be playing higher stakes. But, sadly, my sweet, sweet bitcoin roll remains relatively fragile. I am not bitcoin rich. And so I toil away at the .05/10 game.

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  4. Did your hourly rate take a hit?
    (that's the important part)

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    1. Yes, my hourly rate is now 1.27 chips, which is .000451 of a bitcoin. Also, recent fluctuations in the value of bitcoin have caused my hourly to drop in relation to the $USD during recent weeks. It's really been the "perfect storm."

      Fortunately, bitcoin is not my only asset. I also have a large baseball card collection, and recently inherited my grandmother's collection of Hummels. Of course, given this, I'm feeling somewhat financially secure.

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  5. This evidently didn't take my comment the other day, but I'm also in the "Why bother with these stakes?" camp as far as you're concerned (and especially when it comes to trying to make sense of plays where the money doesn't matter to anyone)...

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  6. its hard to win money at poker if the money dont matter. its why we can beat the rich guys when they sit and casinos are a bigger wealth redistributor than obama

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    1. wko is "we"?? and thought u were RICH now.STUpid UNGER

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  7. i read yr comment on STUpid UNGER'S blog. DONT TAP THE GLASS,sir. i love train wrecks. LOL. TGIF MOFO

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